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Princes of Dol Amroth
February, 25 2006
Questions about the life and times of Imrahil and his family can be asked here, including questions about Ultimatums, Kin-Strife and the shorter stories. Discussions about Brand can go either here or in the Best-Loved Son thread, since his stories sort of overlap both cycles.
I liked the latest chapter of Kin-Strife, Isabeau. I realize that many years passed between the time of this story, and the time of Last Rites/CMC/Silver Swan, so any number of things could have occurred that soured Andrahar's view of Thorongil/Aragorn. Obviously the fact that he'd had to somewhat coerce Thorongil into healing Imrahil would set Andrahar up to view Thorongil with some misgiving, but he seems to have overcome that by Chapter 12 of Kin-Strife, and now we've got Imrahil reflecting on how easy Thorongil and Andrahar are in each other's company.
So what I'm wondering about is whether Imrahil ever reveals to Andrahar that he long knew Thorongil's true identity. If he did so I'm guessing it would only be after Aragorn was known to all in Minas Tirith as the returned King, because Imrahil would keep his sworn word, of course. But would the fact that Thorongil had asked Imrahil to tell no one, thus creating a secret kept from Andrahar, cause Andrahar to dislike or mistrust him once he discovered that there had been such a secret? It occurs to me that Andrahar might possibly take grave offense on one of two fronts: firstly, that Thorongil didn't trust him with the secret (impugning his honor), and secondly that Thorongil's identity became a secret that Imrahil kept from him.
I'm just wondering why Andrahar let Aragorn know that he would never swear fealty to him, and Aragorn took that rebuff in stride, almost as if he deserved it. I can understand that Andrahar was still in the first throes of grief about Boromir... but it seems a bit too extreme to hold that as reason enough to refuse to swear fealty, since in Last Rites Andrahar seemed to realize that Boromir had doomed himself when he tried to take the ring from Frodo. Just trying to get a sense of where Andrahar is coming from. He *is* relatively easy in Kin-Strife with Thorongil, right? If you're not ready to reveal what passes that changes Andrahar's opinion of Thorongil/Aragorn, that's fine. I just want to make sure I understand what we know so far about that relationship.
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