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November, 12 2005
OK, folks-this is the general forum now for questions that don't seem to fit in any of the other threads. I'm going to sort some of the earlier posts into the appropriate forums, but it might take a while, so bear with me. I'll delete the ones that have already been reposted by their authors.
s a final comment - I personally enjoy reading all of your comments, Rebecca, as well as everyone else's.
Thanks, Denise, and likewise! We might disagree on Certain Matters, but if nothing else it's interesting to see how something that seems to be so self-evident to me is not so to everyone else. Always worth bearing in mind whether in this discussion or in any other!
I agree btw about the reason behind the orc incursions -- Mordor testing Gondor's (and Rohan's) borders. Plus once Saruman got into bed with Sauron, so to speak, orcs would have been traveling between the two rather frequently in all likelihood. My point in the relative safety of Anorien was just that it might have appeared to be so when Halaran first moved there. Also it must have been, historically speaking, relatively safe, else the homesteaders would have probably congregated in a more central, fortified community. The early settlers of New England didn't live on scattered homesteads. Not trying for a second to compare Native Americans to orcs, just pointing out the way that wilderness settlers dealt with security against intelligent, weapons-bearing potential threats.
And I also agree that it seemed as though the Witch King curse was well-known throughout the Dunedain community. But there's a difference between knowing about it and believing it to be an imminent and relevant threat. Didn't the Witch King disappear for hundreds of years after the fall of Angmar? I guess it seems to me anyway that for the most part the curse affected the House of the Eagle by making them semi-pariahs among their own kind. Always having to go farther to prove themselves loyal ... when, with no Witch King around, there was no immediate or at least obvious chance that they were going to do any harm to the Dunedain. I understand that there was always the chance of the WK coming back, which could happen, in theory, at any time. But in the daily experience, and for that matter life-long experience, of successive generations of the House of the Eagle, the curse was an unreasonable bias against them.
Kind of like if schizophrenia runs in your family you're more likely to develop the disease than someone with no family history, but there's no guarantee that you will or your descendants will. Nonetheless people who know about your family history might attach more significance to your (normal) mood swings, or they might make assumptions about you and your fitness to wed and have children.
At the time of Halaran and Liraniel's wedding there was no sign of a resurgent Witch King. I can't help but wonder if fear of the curse wasn't a convenient excuse for baser motives in objecting to the marriage, not only on the part of the former friend/rejected suitor, but Litharel and his family too.
It's not, by the way, that I'm firmly against Litharel. Rather it's that what we know of him does not suggest someone who respected his daughter's choice in matters of the heart. Perhaps that's a common trait among fathers in the North, mortal or immortal ...? Anyway there are unanswered issues there, which could perhaps largely or even wholly be resolved if Isabeau can work out what lay behind Halaran's choice to remove to Anorien.
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