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November, 12 2005
OK, folks-this is the general forum now for questions that don't seem to fit in any of the other threads. I'm going to sort some of the earlier posts into the appropriate forums, but it might take a while, so bear with me. I'll delete the ones that have already been reposted by their authors.
"And a really big obstacle between Elrohir and Heth having anything lasting is Heth herself. She sees loving him as a death sentence and she doesn't want to kill him. She doesn't have the First-born appreciation for death, she's mired deep in that Numenorean fear of it. It's no gift to her and no favor to him that she can see. She believes that his destiny as an Elf is far superior to anything he could have with her." (quotes from Isabeau)
Its sad that if Hethlin is the massive barrier to having a relationship with Elrohir that she is bascially holding him up to ransom regarding going to Valinor, similar to what Elrond is asking of him. All I can think of is Earendil who desired to be a human but through the choice of his wife "felt" he needed to become an elf. Elrohir I think, being the product of a mixed heritage knows what he is - an elf. I don't want to brin in popular culture here, but Halle Berry even though she is mixed race, her white mother brought her up with an extremely strong identity, cos she felt that people would in the USA label her firstly as being black. Now that she is having a child with a white man, people see this is as a mixed marriage. But in reality Halle is just as white as she is black, its just cos she LOOKs more black than white. Elrohir looks more elven than human, and he probably feels more elven, but his attachment to middle earth is something that goes beyond being elven, its the human feeling of anxiousness and not knowing your correct place in the world.
Regarding Hethlin's I completely agree with Rebecca's idea of Hethlins emotional maturity regarding her place in the scheme of Arda. Yes she suffered greatly with the loss of her parents and family in a horrific way. But Tolkien himself dealt with death, longevity and ageing in his whole body of work. During his early years, Tolkien endured first the passing of both parents and then the deaths of most of his friends during the First World War. It was not surprising that a search for the meaning of life and death became a preoccupation of Tolkien. Tolkienís Roman Catholic faith underpinned his thoughts about mortality. He also found solace in Northern myths that held that there was intrinsic worth to courage in the face of our inevitable demise. He took an opposing stand to those who felt that bioengineering would allow us to extend human life span virtually without limit. Although Tolkien acknowledged the urge to try to escape our mortality, LOTR is a story about accepting the need to let go with all of the attendant regrets and sorrow. And once Hethlin reaches this in her emotional journey, then maybe she would think about her destiny as a human is no better or worse than Elrohir's destiny as a predhel.
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