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Story meme

 November, 11 2005

Future histories


Here is a meme that did the rounds on LJ recently; not only was it fun, it was a source of ideas:

Ask me what happens after the end of one of my stories.

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 [11] January 24

Happy Belated Birthday Altariel!

I've been wondering about this for a while, and just remembered it now:

From "Black Captain"

Faramir looked up sharply. ‘Who was that?’

‘Lord Minastan.’

He leaned back in his chair, folded his arms, and stared in frank disbelief. ‘Minastan confronted you?’

‘I am not in the habit of imagining such things.’

‘But what could he be thinking...?’ Faramir frowned, looking past the other man into the fire. ‘He must know that my father would have... He cannot think that I would not...’

A slow smile crept across the steward’s face. He bent over the game once more, relishing the confiscation of a white rook more than it perhaps warranted. ‘I shall speak to him in the morning. You need not trouble yourself over Minastan again, my lord.’

‘I think,’ the king replied softly, ‘you might tell me why.’

‘I happen to know that Minastan...’ Faramir replied, ‘was once unwise – very unwise. And would benefit, it seems, from being reminded of my father’s... circumspection at the time.’

‘I think,’ the king said once more, and this time the crack of the whip was clear, ‘you might tell me why.’

‘Neither, sire,’ Faramir replied, after a moment, ‘would that be wise.’

I can't recall that being elaborated in another of your stories -- did I miss it?

Many thanks!

Posted:Jan 24, 2006 17:25 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [12] Hi Rebecca, and thanks for the belated birthday wishes! :-)

The story of What Exactly Minastan Got Up To hasn't been elaborated in any of my stories, and Faramir has so far declined to tell me. I think is has something to do with Easterlings, but I'm not entirely sure... Enough for Denethor to lean on him, but not quite enough to sling him in the dungeons.

Posted:Jan 25, 2006 04:57 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [13] Gotcha. Easterlings, hm. Possibly scurrilous or salacious, definitely scandalous and illegal. And yet Minastan wasn't cowed enough to keep his head down upon Denethor's demise. I hope that someday Faramir will unbend enough to tell you Altariel!

Posted:Jan 25, 2006 11:08 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [14] Sensibility.

(cough) Just kidding! :)

The Machine That Changed the World!

Posted:Jan 26, 2006 01:47 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [15] Yet another one: Lady of Silences. Specifically, is this the last evening of Finduilas' life, when she overdoses? For such a short piece, this encapsulates so much of the steward's family - much like all your writing, it is precise, immaculately paced, and very moving. One of the reviewers noted that it had a fragile, brittle quality that well matches the nature of Fin & Denethor's relationship at this point, and I thought that best described my own feelings about the piece also. A very brave story.

Posted:Jan 27, 2006 14:05 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [16] Hi dpetrash - and thank you for the kind words about Lady of Silences, which I think is the story of mine that's got the widest spectrum of responses. Yes, this is the night Finduilas dies - it was written intentionally vaguely in that I don't she was consciously intending to suicide, but certainly subconsciously she was hoping that she wouldn't wake up the following morning. What happens next? Someone once asked me to try writing that story, but it's just too sad for me to want to go there. Denethor is certainly in denial (There's a glimpse of what happens next in one of the flashbacks in Spirits of the House).

As for what happens after The Machine that Changed the World: Faramir and Aragorn finance a bright but penniless entrepreneur and end up as non-executive directors of Gondor's first version of Borders. Faramir gives most of the money from this to his daughter to set up the first public lending libraries in Middle-earth.

Posted:Jan 28, 2006 09:31 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [17] Thank you for the note on Spirits of the House - I had forgotten that scene with Boromir & Faramir. How did Denethor warp so much, I wonder? Was it all the palantir? But even in his youth there was all that conflict with Thorongil... What a cold and complex man.

And TMtCtW: LOL! Yes, indeed, I can just see it. Did the Worshipful Order of Scriveners attempt to unionize or anything?

Posted:Jan 28, 2006 22:43 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [18] How did Denethor warp so much, I wonder? Was it all the palantir? But even in his youth there was all that conflict with Thorongil... What a cold and complex man.

Definitely. I wonder if a troubled relationship with his father didn't help - and I tend to imagine this as predating Thorongil's arrival. My instincts tell me that Ecthelion was very much like Boromir, and couldn't quite understand his (as you say) cold and complex son.

I wonder if Denethor believes from a very early age that he's fighting a doomed cause, and knows that the crunch will come during his own Stewardship. That wouldn't do much for his state of mind.

Did the Worshipful Order of Scriveners attempt to unionize or anything?

LOL, I was wondering the same thing! Alas for the Worshipful Order of Scriveners, I think their days are numbered. Although I'm sure that those who don't fall foul of market forces are able to sell their products as high-end consumer goods. I'm sure Gondor's growing middle class believe it's much posher to have their dinner invitations hand-written than mass-produced ;-D

Posted:Jan 29, 2006 11:31 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [19] "My instincts tell me that Ecthelion was very much like Boromir..."

That's an excellent insight. I'll have to mull through that some more. Certainly your fic has opened some real windows into Denethor's mind for me, giving good reasons behind his relationship with his sons, and everyone's reactions to events of the War of the Ring. I especially appreciate that it's canon-based and compatible with Tolkien's writings.

Posted:Jan 29, 2006 20:27 GMT  Reply to this Comment

 [20] If there were similarities between Ecthelion and Boromir, it seemed as if it might explain some of Denethor's need when it came to Boromir's affections. Like it was an opportunity to make up for what came between him and Ecthelion.

Posted:Jan 30, 2006 09:04 GMT  Reply to this Comment
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