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February, 27 2006
This is where you can ask all questions about the imaginary Gondorian town of Halabor and the stories related to it, i.e: "Shadows of the Past", "The Shoemaker's Daughter" and "The Last Yule in Halabor", so far.
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 OK I don't have a particular comment or question about these stories at the moment -- I need to go back and re-read to refresh my memory. But I just want to say, again, how much I enjoyed all of them. They were very evocative and thought-provoking. Really impressive writing!
Posted:Feb 27, 2006 16:11 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Thank you. :)
I've done a few more bits for "The Shoemaker's Daughter" and am going to post Chapter 2 as soon as my poor beta finds the time to clean out the grammar. I also planned a few more Halabor stories.
If you want to see some background trivia, I post bits and pieces to the Otherworlds discussion board.
Posted:Feb 28, 2006 11:50 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Hello, Soledad,
I just finished "The Last Yule in Halabor." Although I'm coming in rather late on this, I wanted to convey how much I really enjoyed this series and appreciated the amount of work/research that you had to have put into it. I thought I had a clue about the latter until I visited your "Otherworlds" discussion board, and *jaw-drop* was astounded all over again. My only regret was that there wasn't a pottery discussion - it's the one skill I have some small experience in and could possibly have said "Hey, yeah - I knew that!" :)
I am actually glad that I read "A Brotherly Gift" first. Now, looking at that story again, all of the interactions that Imrahil and Andrahar have with the inhabitants are tinged with sadness for me, since I know that nearly all of them are dead in less than two years. How bitter for a good man like Orchaldor in particular, to have seen his son slain first (and so his ancient line end) and then his people destroyed. I wonder if he regretted then his command to Angharad to not bear Herumor any children.
I was, though, newly appreciative of how many touches from TLYiH that you worked into ABG - if not individuals, then their work or place of business.
Which brings me to one question: How did you decide who actually lived? Some were logical (the outlying manors, the farmer's family), but others so random.
Did you draw the culture and traditions of the Old Folk from one particular real-life people, or a sampling of several? I did see the note that lots of your names are Celtic or Cornish, but wasn't sure if that was related.
Will "A Shoemaker's Daughter" take us all the way to the orc attack?
Again, every single tale was very well done. The town and its people were made so real to me.
Posted:Oct 5, 2006 21:40 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Hi Denise,
Sorry I'm late with the answer. I forgot to check my journals here. And now trying to answer your questions - even if belatedly.
The traditions of the Old Folk are actually my construction. I chose the mostly Cornish (and sometimes Celtic) names so that they'd have a similar root - besides, who could have come up with so many names, right?
Yes, "The Shoemaker's Daughter" would show the orc attack and the destruction of the city in all its gory details, but it will go beyond that, till the Fourth Age, eventually. If you want a glimpse what will come later, I recommend you the one-shot "Shadows of the Past". It's a fairly old story, some things have changed in the conception of Halabor since, but the facts would mainly remain the same ones.
As for a pottery discussion, you're welcome to sign up to "Otherworlds" and start one. I'd be happy to learn from you all things about pottery - one day I might become interested in the potters of Halabor, and I'll give you due credit for the inspiration. :)
I still have to work out all the other occupation lists for the town. But first we'll be able to witness how young Herumor became a knight - the story is planned for Christmas, if the muses are willing to cooperate.
Thank you for your interest - it gives me back the joy in writing again. :)
Posted:Nov 16, 2006 16:22 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Hello, Soledad,
Thank you for all the comments on your writing, and for pointing to "Shadows"! I shall check it out. You certainly did a good job with the Old Folk traditions. They had a ring of truth to them, which is why I wondered about any sources.
Re: Pottery. Erg. I probably only know enough to thoroughly confuse anyone I tried to explain it to, and that's all modern techniques to boot. I once owned a kick-wheel, but that required more coordination than I was apparently capable of managing. :P
I am eagerly looking forward to Herumor's story! I hope RL and the muses fall into line...
Posted:Nov 16, 2006 23:37 GMT Reply to this Comment
These stories look interesting, but I don't know which one I should read first! :) I clicked on the 'Otherworlds' link but I got an error message. Has it moved to a new site?
Thanks for your help.
Posted:Nov 17, 2006 01:10 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Well, chronoligically "The Shoemaker's Daughter" is the first, although it's far from finished yet. Then would come "A Brotherly Gift", then "The Last Yule of Halabor", and finally "Shadows of the Past", although, as I mentioned to Denise, that one has become a bit outdated by certain new background details. I don't intend to change its main events, though, so perhaps it won't be too distracting. "The Young Knights" will come before every other story, once it's written.
As for the Otherworlds board, it worked just fine for me two minutes ago. InvisionFree does have hiccups sometimes, so perhaps you should try again. The URL is still as it used to be:
Thanks for your interest. :)
Posted:Nov 17, 2006 06:39 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Thanks. :)
I intend to bring more Old Folk stuff into the play, especially when I move locations to Lossarnach and Forlong's chief town.
Posted:Nov 17, 2006 06:42 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Hi, Soledad,
I think the problem is that the link that's given on your TFF pages must be out of date? It points to a us.geocities.com site.
Posted:Nov 17, 2006 15:02 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Oh, I see. That link actually takes you to my old website which hasn't been updated for ages. The discussion board is a different animal entirely... and Geocities likes to swallow it sometimes. :)
Still, currently it's the only place where some of the really old stories can be found, so I kept it as long as I don't have anything better.
Posted:Nov 17, 2006 18:05 GMT Reply to this Comment
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