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Hethlin of Anorien

By:Isabeau
 February, 25 2006

I know CMC's a done deal, but since I intend to give it a thorough editing in the future, I'll include it in this thread, as well as make this a place for any other Heth questions not appropriate for the Silver Swan thread.


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 [31] **“I’m going to have a look at your arm now. These clothes are ruined, so I’m just going to slit the sleeves, if you don’t mind.”

“Don’t care.” He reached for my sword belt, and pulled the dagger, then used it to slice through the fabric, eyebrows raised at the ease with which he did so.

“You keep quite an edge on that, don’t you?” I smiled a little.

“Father always said, take care of your weapons, and they’ll take care of you.”

“Indeed.” I felt the cold air on my arm and shivered a little. Faramir looked at the wound, and frowned.**

From chapter 18 of CMC

Wouldn't Faramir spot it was Boromirs Dager, apart from the order things where written in of course, just spotted it when I was re-reading it this morning.

Nargil
Posted:Mar 27, 2006 12:02 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [32] Is the instrument maker from whom Heth buys the harp for Elrohir the same person as the father of the girl in Well Favored?

Imhiriel
Posted:Mar 28, 2006 17:48 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [33] Nargil asked: From chapter 18 of CMC:

Wouldn't Faramir spot it was Boromirs Dager, apart from the order things where written in of course, just spotted it when I was re-reading it this morning.

Well, he would have had Boromir's Dagger been in existence at that time, which it wasn't.;-) Like a lot of other things in CMC, that's a passage I'm going to have to tweak to bring into compliance with later writings. (Adds to list...)


Posted:Mar 28, 2006 18:05 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [34] Imhiriel asked: Is the instrument maker from whom Heth buys the harp for Elrohir the same person as the father of the girl in Well Favored?

Yes, he is.


Posted:Mar 28, 2006 18:07 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [35] In Blackbow when Esteven is saying the Swan knights in Minas Tirith are at Faramir / Boromir's command, how many are there?

Also how long did Faramir spend in Dol-Amroth as an esquire, you mention cavalry training several times?

Nargil
Posted:Mar 31, 2006 10:07 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [36] Nargil asked: In Blackbow when Esteven is saying the Swan knights in Minas Tirith are at Faramir / Boromir's command, how many are there?

I don't think it's a big detachment, and there are probably not even always Swan Knights there. I suspect Esteven had about 25 men there. Now when the Prince is present, the numbers go up, probably to a full company of 100.

Also how long did Faramir spend in Dol-Amroth as an esquire, you mention cavalry training several times?

I don't know exactly, but he was never an actual esquire. It's more a case of him receiving cavalry training on the occasions he or Boromir were there. They would basically show up, and Andra and whoever was Horsemaster at the time (I think Peloren became Horsemaster a little later)would find out where they were in their martial education and take it up from there, until they left again.


Posted:Apr 3, 2006 20:11 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [37] Hi, Isabeau. Something I've wondered about from CMC for a while, but can't decide for myself what might be going on... In SS Ch.1, Imrahil tells Hethlin that the King was right to deny her the Ranger captaincy, and that he thought Faramir only tried to push it through because Faramir felt guilty that he loved Eowyn and didn't return Heth's feelings. But in CMC, Faramir doesn't "officially" find out that Heth's in love with him until after she's been denied the captaincy and sworn to Imrahil. Is the order of events (when Faramir finds out) something that you intend to change in the CMC edit? Or is Imrahil mistaken? Or was Faramir aware of Heth's feelings on some level before Elrohir popped off about it, and although he refused to acknowledge it consciously, he really was trying to appease Heth in some way?

Also, does Heth ever learn that she could have been a lieutenant with the Rangers, if Faramir had listened to his brother?

Denise
Posted:Apr 10, 2006 17:43 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [38] Denise asked: Hi, Isabeau. Something I've wondered about from CMC for a while, but can't decide for myself what might be going on... In SS Ch.1, Imrahil tells Hethlin that the King was right to deny her the Ranger captaincy, and that he thought Faramir only tried to push it through because Faramir felt guilty that he loved Eowyn and didn't return Heth's feelings. But in CMC, Faramir doesn't "officially" find out that Heth's in love with him until after she's been denied the captaincy and sworn to Imrahil. Is the order of events (when Faramir finds out) something that you intend to change in the CMC edit? Or is Imrahil mistaken? Or was Faramir aware of Heth's feelings on some level before Elrohir popped off about it, and although he refused to acknowledge it consciously, he really was trying to appease Heth in some way?

I will probably have to edit it, since there is an obvious conflict, though I do think it's possible that Faramir was aware on some level of Heth's feelings, given that he's supposed to be a perceptive fellow.

Also, does Heth ever learn that she could have been a lieutenant with the Rangers, if Faramir had listened to his brother?

I hope not, for Faramir's sake...


Posted:Apr 12, 2006 17:54 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [39] Isabeau: ...though I do think it's possible that Faramir was aware on some level of Heth's feelings, given that he's supposed to be a perceptive fellow.

I think you could make a case for any of those reasons... I don't think Imrahil knows enough about Heth's battle capabilities to judge her (they only fought together that one time), although grunt soldier to captain is a bit of a jump no matter how good you are. And Faramir spent so much energy trying to not think of Hethlin as a woman when she was in the Rangers that he still seems to struggle with changing his perception of her, though he's doing better. I would not be surprised if he had subconsciously noticed her regard and "blinded" himself to it in order to avoid any additional temptation. It could help explain how his fabled ability to see into the hearts of men failed him in the case of this one woman. Then again, Altariel's AGoC shows him pretty dense about Eowyn and her issues, too - maybe it's just women in general he has trouble with...

Faramir's denseness where Heth is concerned still annoys me at times, especially when he's trying to push her towards Imrahil or refusing to see how good Elrohir has been for her. He knows her history! I suppose subconsciously I was kind of hoping she did find out about the Ranger lieutenancy just so she'd have a reason to give him a good swift kick in the rear.

What do you think Hethlin really believes about Imrahil's declaration of love? Is she taking it seriously at this point, or is her low self-image (so conscious of her scars, etc.) making her think it's just an infatuation on his part that he'll eventually "get over"? Her way of dealing with it makes me think it's the latter, since it basically amounts to avoiding him personally, and especially avoiding thinking about or discussing it with anyone. Sort of a "If I ignore it, it will go away" approach to the whole issue, though I guess actually it would if she went North.

Finally... re: Rebecca's question in comment #29 - was there really a Heth and Elrohir portrait at one time? What a tragedy if it was lost.

Denise
Posted:Apr 18, 2006 14:54 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [40] Hi Isabeau,

I was reading CMC again the other day, have you been editing the later chapters, some bits seem different to how I remember them?

Or maybe it's just me, also a question from the start you said to guess who your favourite character is, from the early chapters I'd say Faramir, but now having read the other stuff I'd say Imrahil but I dont know.

Nargil
Posted:Apr 25, 2006 17:34 GMT  Reply to this Comment
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