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Hethlin of Anorien

By:Isabeau
 February, 25 2006

I know CMC's a done deal, but since I intend to give it a thorough editing in the future, I'll include it in this thread, as well as make this a place for any other Heth questions not appropriate for the Silver Swan thread.


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 [141] Radbooks wrote: I have a few bunnies, although this first one is to Dwim.
And that is the way it should be...
I'd also like to see a story of a youngish Hethlin when her father is teaching her something... how to shoot or stalk or something like that. How did she get to be so good at those sorts of things.
That's a good one. Though I tend to throw those moments into other stuff as flashbacks.
Or, perhaps her father with Aragorn or doing something in the north. What was the errand he was doing for the eagles right be fore Heth was born?
I started a story a while back where Halaran actually ran into Aragorn when Aragorn was in the Fangorn neck of the woods. But it wasn't the errand Celeborn told Heth about-she was six years old at the time. I just never got around to finishing it.
You have a lot of ideas now. :) But, if you're anything like me, the problem isn't the ideas, it's getting them on paper or simply finding the time to write!
Applying butt to chair and sticking with it is my problem.

Isabeau
Posted:Jun 18, 2009 16:09 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [142] Dwim wrote:
Actually, no, Dwim does not... [shoves LACE essay under bed - no, I did not spend this morning writing an outline and introductory chunks of a fan essay instead of researching my topic, not at all...]
Essays are good, but if you're going to slack off, fic is better...

Isabeau
Posted:Jun 18, 2009 16:11 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [143] Let me just pause here to say how happy I am you are all helping Dwim with her academic procrastination...That's the spirit of fellowship and cooperation I like to see on my journal...
Nargil wrote:PLEASE dont let Amrothos start experimenting on animals. I helped out with the RSPCA for a while and they raided a lab. The state the poor things where in was apaling 3/4 had to be put to sleep because the where to injured or mentally traumatised to be re-homed.
Don't worry, Nargil. I don't know if everyone realizes it, but I used to do Sheltie Rescue (have a rescue dog at my feet right now in fact) and live with two horses, 39 sheep, 1 cat, 7 dogs and 8 tanks of fish. There will be no animal experimentation.

Isabeau
Posted:Jun 18, 2009 16:14 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [144] There will be no animal experimentation.

Well, how about this, then? Amrothos has an interest in poison. He also loves, loves, loves every slithery snake, clammy toad, independent cat, etc. that comes his way because they are just fascinating.

So no animal experimentation. But he does want to learn about poisons - perhaps he goes looking for (a) book learning first (and I'm sure that the Haradrim have a few manuals on this - but perhaps Gondor does not [yet? publically?]), and (b) decides he does want some first hand evidence of how these things work experientially (the ones not likely to kill in low doses, plus the narcotics stuff) so he can time reactions, etc., and this is why he goes to Andrahar...

The question is: why would he be moved to this extreme? What exactly would prompt him? If he's a younger person, is it possible that Amrothos has a core of uncertainty with regard to his particular gifts? That perhaps he feels somehow inadequate at a certain point in his young life - maybe when he turns fifteen or so, around the time when older brothers are all off risking their necks and enduring some pretty heavy bruising from dear Uncle Andrahar, the Drill Master...?

Or did something traumatic ever happen that might push him to this kind of drive to get to know poisons?

Or both?

Dwim
Posted:Jun 18, 2009 17:02 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [145] Let me just pause here to say how happy I am you are all helping Dwim with her academic procrastination...That's the spirit of fellowship and cooperation I like to see on my journal...

I think that deserves another nuzgul.

After the first audience with the king, when everyone is on lunch break, Mablung tells Heth and Lorend that he's "taken care of" and sneaks off. Lorend says that "cries out for a bit of reconnaissance", then does the "Ranger fading trick" himself when Eowyn shows up with Eomer to collect Hethlin.

So what happened on that reconnaissance mission? Dare I hope for hijinks and an amusing introduction of Lorend, not so private eye, to Mablung's future intended?

Dwim
Posted:Jun 18, 2009 17:14 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [146] Essays are good, but if you're going to slack off, fic is better...

But this has the benefit of compromising with my virtuous side - because I am actually looking up Aquinas for this one, which isn't that far removed from the dissertation, allowing for sufficient time to get to the final chapter, that is...

Dwim
Posted:Jun 18, 2009 17:16 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [147] Took up Nargil's suggestion of hitting the tolkienfanfiction homepage once in a while, and got a tremendous squee! when I realised that there were a lot of new comments here...

To chime in on the animal experimentation/Amrothos' narcotics discussion, maybe he started out with medications, then moved onto narcotics and poisons. He is living in a war zone, after all - it might come in useful, and it'll complement what his brothers are doing when they're risking their necks.

Perhaps it might atart out as related to Nimrien's death - hers was something that healers would have tried to ease using potions, but failed. And Amrothos, if I recall correctly, was at the age that he could understand what was going on, but was too young to do anything remotely useful except get out of adults' way - which would have really hurt. It might be a latent desire to 'make up' for his earlier helplessness and contribute to the field of medicine. Or just so that he can have a better grip of what was really going on during his mother's death, since he was young enough that the details would be a bit foggy by now.

And it's not that great a leap from medication to poisons, actually, since a lot of drugs used therapeutically can kill in higher doses, or if given inappropriately. The haradric manuals that Dwim suggests probably contained both the medicines as well as narcotics and poisons - since they're often the same thing in the end.

Those are just my thoughts - hope you can make something of it!

(And now back to exam revision! Noo.......)

illereyn
Posted:Jun 19, 2009 01:40 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [148] Isabeau:
Ah, but there doesn't have to be a Moriarty unless I write a bunch of them, now does there? I could always just do one!

Those sound like fateful last words to me!

That's another one I would love to finish. One of these days, the rest of it will occur to me. I think water-skiing is involved, but that's all I know at this point.

Snort... I picture the boys from ZZ Top racing along the water, their beards whipped around their heads, the grip bound around the waist so their hands are free for their guitars...

There's The Best Gift of All as well. I always liked that one because of the Nimrien/Faramir interaction. And Imrahil bringing back the transparent chemise...

Now I recall the first one you mention (of course), but not the second one ("transparent chemise"? Sounds exciting ;-)) How is it called and where can I find it?

I love Illereyn's musings about Amrothos and narcotics, especially her ideas for possible motives.

He is living in a war zone, after all - it might come in useful, and it'll complement what his brothers are doing when they're risking their necks.

And we know from the drabble where he blows up the Osgiliath bridge that he is quite willing to risk his health and life in war just as the "normal soldiers".

But especially this rings absolutely plausible for such an intensely curious but also somewhat solitary (because his eccentric pursuits are not shared with many others) person:

Perhaps it might atart out as related to Nimrien's death - hers was something that healers would have tried to ease using potions, but failed. And Amrothos, if I recall correctly, was at the age that he could understand what was going on, but was too young to do anything remotely useful except get out of adults' way - which would have really hurt. It might be a latent desire to 'make up' for his earlier helplessness and contribute to the field of medicine. Or just so that he can have a better grip of what was really going on during his mother's death, since he was young enough that the details would be a bit foggy by now.

Question for the group: Do you believe in "speculation-nuzgūls"? Because that's exactly what the critter nibbling at my toes seems to be...

Imhiriel
Posted:Jun 19, 2009 18:07 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [149] Do you believe in "speculation-nuzgūls"?

Hell yeah!

Dwim
Posted:Jun 20, 2009 11:40 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [150] Tag!

Dwim
Posted:Jun 24, 2009 10:31 GMT  Reply to this Comment
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