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Princes of Dol Amroth

By:Isabeau
 February, 25 2006

Questions about the life and times of Imrahil and his family can be asked here, including questions about Ultimatums, Kin-Strife and the shorter stories. Discussions about Brand can go either here or in the Best-Loved Son thread, since his stories sort of overlap both cycles.


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 [261] Yeah! *Points upward* What Radbooks and Denise said!

Sorry I haven't been reviewing... will tell you why in a sec... but I would really like to know what Andrahar thinks about dogs in general, and this one in particular.

Especially in light of how his mother's body was disposed of. That alone would rather spoil my opinion of canines.... though, on the other hand, I imagine Andrahar would approve (at least, in theory) of Brand having a personal bodyguard while Andrahar and Imrahil are gone.... he was too upset by the kidnapping to not see the value of that.

Anyway, Isabeau, remember the drabble I told you about, sparked by the word "gut-riven"? The first in a chapter about the Battle of the Field of Celebrant (four different armies plus the sons of Elrond... and I decided to base a whole drabble series on it.... *rolls eyes at the foolhardiness*) that I'd been struggling to start for years?

There are now eight drabbles!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! *sends virtual hugs*

- Barbara

Elena Tiriel
Posted:Sep 22, 2008 16:29 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [262] Anyway, Isabeau, remember the drabble I told you about, sparked by the word "gut-riven"? The first in a chapter about the Battle of the Field of Celebrant (four different armies plus the sons of Elrond... and I decided to base a whole drabble series on it.... *rolls eyes at the foolhardiness*) that I'd been struggling to start for years?

There are now eight drabbles!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! *sends virtual hugs*

Wow! *Sends virtual hugs right back!* I don't feel that I can really take any credit for that, but I am very, very pleased! Hopefully, we'll be seeing them soon? Or are they already posted somwhere?

Isabeau
Posted:Sep 23, 2008 12:06 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [263] Wow! *Sends virtual hugs right back!* I don't feel that I can really take any credit for that, but I am very, very pleased! Hopefully, we'll be seeing them soon? Or are they already posted somwhere?

LOL! Well, you did directly inspire the 'gut-riven' drabble, and its lead-in (how the poor fellow came to be lying on the battlefield in that condition)... but the rest came mostly because you had helped me break a mental logjam. I had kept track of many ideas for that chapter, but none had ever gelled into actual drabbles.... so you gave me the push that got it started. *Sends blessings Isabeau's way*

And I realized, after updating my spreadsheet (and Tanaqui already teases me mercilessly for using one to keep track of the drabbles, thankyouverymuch!) that, with those 8 drabbles, I have now written a total of 100 drabbles for this series.... not bad, considering that when I started with the first one, the second one took months, and I never knew for sure that there would be another....

But only 77 are posted so far, though I'm thinking of posting a chapter with 3 more, just to celebrate the 100th, after I finish the Author's Notes (which are running about 4 times the size of the drabbles they're referring to... obsessive? moi?).

So, the Battle chapter is not posted, and in fact, won't be finished for a while. There's so much going on that it might take 20 drabbles to cover adequately... sorry!

But I've derived so much inspiration from your stories, and from Andrahar in particular love that prickly guy! that you will recognize a lot of concepts, when I do post it. And you'll have several mentions in the A/N, like his saying about "We are fragile sacks of bone and blood and meat....".

Anyway, I'll let you know when the chapter is posted... but please don't hold your breath! The muse has been known to desert me for a year at a time....

- Barbara

(Wow! I am amazed... I can wax eloquent when first awakening, can't I? You'd never know I was a drabblist, when I babble on so.... Your lovely Imrahil and I share a positive horror of mornings.... *clutches bean tea desperately*)

Elena Tiriel
Posted:Sep 23, 2008 15:33 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [264] You've done it again, I get home from Vegas and two shiney new chapters are waiting for me, squeeeeee!

The Tamora peirce question came from the shukusen (sp?) that Kel's yammani friends have, I thought they might suit Heth in her new job?

I'm glad the tournaments nearly ready, Does Andra fight? I hope your muse wtrites the bridging chapters soon and that work lets you post them.

In terms of Swan knight skills is Heth allowed to use Archery as one in the same way Andra used his sword fighting?

It was nice to meet Liahans family, I hope the king has somthing nice in mind for them after all there hard work. Luin is too cute, I fall in love with all of your dogs.

Nargil
Posted:Sep 24, 2008 17:30 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [265] I re-read "Liquid Numbers" for the MEFAs a few days ago, and just now thought back on it as a question popped into my head: If Akilah is indeed Amrothos' future bride, I would very much like to know how her and Andra's relationship develops. Has she the usual prejudices against him? Does she accept him as "Adrahil's son"? Does she know anything about him beforehand in the first place? And what does Andra say - does he readily accept her learning as he has previously accepted the learning of Gondorian women like Finduilas and Nimrien? And what about her father? etc.

I'd be curious if you have already mapped out some of this and if so, whether you'd like to share it here.

Imhiriel
Posted:Sep 16, 2009 05:43 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [266] Imhiriel wrote: I re-read "Liquid Numbers" for the MEFAs a few days ago, and just now thought back on it as a question popped into my head: If Akilah is indeed Amrothos' future bride, I would very much like to know how her and Andra's relationship develops. Has she the usual prejudices against him? Does she accept him as "Adrahil's son"? Does she know anything about him beforehand in the first place? And what does Andra say - does he readily accept her learning as he has previously accepted the learning of Gondorian women like Finduilas and Nimrien? And what about her father? etc.

I'd be curious if you have already mapped out some of this and if so, whether you'd like to share it here.

Actually, I hadn't really thought about it. I suspect that that's because Andra doesn't make commentary on who Imrahil's sons marry-he might be an honorary uncle, but it's Imrahil's job to approve or disapprove. If Amrothos marries Akilah, she will be regarded by Andra as a Princess of Dol Amroth and not a woman of Harad. As you said, Nimrien was bookish and that did not bother him, so I don't think he would be taking Akilah to task for her odd ways-he'd probably figure she fits right in and it's just as well she picked a Gondorim to marry!

The only circumstance in which I can see Andra expressing disapproval would be if one of the boys' wives were cheating on them. Because that's a slur on their honor and he would not abide that.

As far as Akilah goes, no one who moves in highly placed circles in Harad is ignorant of who Andrahar is-he's pretty much a legend at this point. She would indeed accept him as Adrahil's son and probably be both cautious and respectful in the extreme as regarded her conduct towards him. I think in time that she would relax a bit, particularly when she saw how he and Amrothos got along.


Isabeau
Posted:Sep 17, 2009 17:43 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [267] Thanks for answering so thoroughly, Isabeau. Much of what you wrote were things I thought might be likely, too, and it's nice to know it might be probable from the author's perspective.

so I don't think he would be taking Akilah to task for her odd ways-he'd probably figure she fits right in and it's just as well she picked a Gondorim to marry!

Lol! And marry this particular Gondorim, to boot, right...

As far as Akilah goes, no one who moves in highly placed circles in Harad is ignorant of who Andrahar is-he's pretty much a legend at this point. She would indeed accept him as Adrahil's son and probably be both cautious and respectful in the extreme as regarded her conduct towards him. I think in time that she would relax a bit, particularly when she saw how he and Amrothos got along.

Oh, that's wonderful to imagine! And to imagine Amrothos's reaction to this.

Actually, if you're still open to nuzgul-flinging...
I'm very much longing to see a scene in which the fact of Andra as "Adrahil's son" plays a role in some way.

Imhiriel
...whistles innocently while pointing a cute fanged thing in the direction of the States...
...with a gift hamper of home-made cookies as compensation/bribe...


Posted:Sep 18, 2009 08:29 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [268] Isabeau said: [Akilah] would indeed accept [Andrahar] as Adrahil's son and probably be both cautious and respectful in the extreme as regarded her conduct towards him. I think in time that she would relax a bit, particularly when she saw how he and Amrothos got along.

I agree about relaxing a bit, after a while:

From what we see in "Liquid Numbers", I think Akilah is going to love Amrothos fiercely. And, yes, as a well-trained diplomat's daughter, she would as a matter of course give Andrahar the formal respect and deference he is due.

But once she learns of the events behind "Self-Defense", her respect would become much more personal esteem.... "You gave my love the skills he needed to survive!"

I think that might go a long way toward -- eventually -- breaking through the ice of formality and social obligation... even Haradric formality....

- Barbara

Elena Tiriel
Posted:Jun 29, 2010 16:52 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [269] Isabeau said: [Akilah] would indeed accept [Andrahar] as Adrahil's son and probably be both cautious and respectful in the extreme as regarded her conduct towards him. I think in time that she would relax a bit, particularly when she saw how he and Amrothos got along.

I agree about relaxing a bit, after a while:

From what we see in "Liquid Numbers", I think Akilah is going to love Amrothos fiercely. And, yes, as a well-trained diplomat's daughter, she would as a matter of course give Andrahar the formal respect and deference he is due.

But once she learns of the events behind "Self-Defense", her respect would become much more personal esteem.... "You gave my love the skills he needed to survive!"

I think that might go a long way toward -- eventually -- breaking through the ice of formality and social obligation... even Haradric formality....

- Barbara

Elena Tiriel
Posted:Jun 29, 2010 16:53 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [270] Sorry about the spam... I used the "back" key on my browser, and apparently that gave it the excuse to re-post.... *sigh*

- B

Elena Tiriel
Posted:Jun 29, 2010 16:55 GMT  Reply to this Comment
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