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By:Isabeau
 November, 12 2005

OK, folks-this is the general forum now for questions that don't seem to fit in any of the other threads. I'm going to sort some of the earlier posts into the appropriate forums, but it might take a while, so bear with me. I'll delete the ones that have already been reposted by their authors.


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 [421] I'm a bit afraid that if I spill the beans I won't want to finish anything.

Since I'm not an author, I don't have any advice about it worth the screen space. Only a fervent wish that - should you decide to spill the beans (or allow the beans to be spilled, as the case may be) - the exact opposite would happen and instead your muse would feel freed-up and ready to write again. There's so much more to Heth, her friends and her adventures than who she ends up marrying, after all...

...I've discussed with Una about her posting her story that has been sitting around since about 2003 and answers the question, but I think she would like to do some re-writing before she does.

Oh ho! So should we take our hopeful pestering to Una now? :)

Denise
Posted:Aug 14, 2010 16:19 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [422] Haha, although this may look like a shot fired to revive the WWHNW debate, it's not directly intended as such.

Barbara, you voiced an opinion I've heard others express over the years, "it just breaks my heart whenever I read a story where the twins (or, worse yet, only one of them) don't sail and eventually die...."

And I guess that if you consider Elladan and Elrohir only as the brief sketches that Tolkien gave, I can appreciate that perspective, somewhat. But the characterizations that Isabeau has created for each twin challenge the notion that they are an inseparable unit whose fate is to always be together. Sure, they have been at each others' sides so far - but so much of their circumstance has been existing in the wise and benevolent shadows of their powerful father and grandparents. In the new world order that dawns with the Fourth Age, those circumstances are rather dramatically changed. Everything we've heard about Elrohir in Isabeau's stories suggests that he's not suited for sailing off to Valinor to strum a harp for eternity. I'm not saying that Hethlin has to be the answer for him, nor that he has to be the answer for her. But to make an argument against Heth being with Elrohir long-term because of a wish for Elladan & Elrohir to be an inviolate set because they're twins strikes me as ignoring the appealing, finely nuanced, philosophically interesting depiction of both Elladan and Elrohir in Isabeau's stories. Isabeau's world is a particular version of Middle Earth -- in other versions the twins might be convincingly construed as happily bound for Valinor. In such cases you'd hear no objections from me.

The ultimate question is this, I think: would Isabeau's Elladan wish for Isabeau's Elrohir to trudge reluctantly along to Valinor because he felt obliged to not disappoint his family (or the readers' wish to keep twins together)? I think not. But maybe that's just my reading of Isabeau's character depictions, colored by my own skepticism of the overall appeal of immortality in Valinor.

Gwidhiel
Posted:Aug 14, 2010 21:36 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [423] Dear Isabeau,

I can't begin to reasonably advise you about revealing Hethlin's fate, especially since I am now the not-so-proud owner of an unfinished WIP (although not one that has a devoted audience clamoring to know what will happen! :) ). It sounds like you know what will happen with Hethlin, so the only thing that has yet to happen is the writing of it -- the basic outline has already been decided? Based only on my own intuition, I second Denise's prediction that revealing Hethlin's fate to your readers would only spur you to return to that writing project. Keeping it under wraps for the last several years doesn't seem to have helped towards finishing the story, so maybe it's time for a new approach?

Haha, maybe those of us who are super eager to know should have to a) sign a confidentiality agreement, and b) promise to make no complaints or long, rambling opinions (ahem, mea culpa!), or to pester you with questions after finally getting the answer we've been waiting (for sooooo looonggg) for!! How bout that? Huh? :)

Gwidhiel
Posted:Aug 14, 2010 21:52 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [424] ...although not one that has a devoted audience clamoring to know what will happen!

*ahem* I beg your pardon?

I'm too reserved to actually clamor, but Isabeau is not the only writer upon whom my lengthy patience is visited, Gwidhiel! Yes, I'm looking at you, too, Imhiriel. Una. Dwim.

Barbara only recently escaped the list, and thinking about that makes me want to revisit Fell and Fair's Addendum...

Though I've not been the best reader/reviewer this past year either, so I don't really have much of a leg to stand on!

Denise
Posted:Aug 15, 2010 02:39 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [425] Isabeau said: If you read the last three chapters of Dwimordene's excellent story Armageddon Will Not Be Televized...

Incidentally, I avidly second this. It's a fantastic and fantastical story, although I found it a bit tricky to navigate because of the numerous B2MeM role-playing threads. Isabeau's Imrahil has some other major appearances during the role-playing, too - lots of Unabeauverse tidbits turn up! :)

Denise
Posted:Aug 15, 2010 02:45 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [426] Yes, I was disappointed that Imri didn't actually get a chance to board/sail on Vingilot-Earendil was certainly willing. but other things came up. He actually had some nice conversations with Earendil, Nerdanel, Osse and Halbarad. And Mhauri, the Haradrim waif, whom he told Halbarad was a girl, saying that he tended to notice those sorts of things...He also got chomped by a vampire! His was not an action sort of adventure like the folks who went to Mordor to confront Sauron, he had a very quiet quest. But he was the first one into the Tavern and the first one back out the door and I thought he did a lot to keep things going on the diplomatic end of things. I was very proud of him!

Indulged myself a bit-you got goodies during the quest and at one point Imrahil got Shadowfax, whom I turned into Caerith instead. Showed those folks what a Swan Knight on a good horse can do-he held the record for the most ground covered in a single turn-from Valmar to the River Anduin overland via the Helcaraxe!

I'm a gamer and RPGer from way back, so this year was extremely fun for me!

As for the question, I may just continue working on a certain story that will answer it completely, since everyone is tired of waiting.


Isabeau
Posted:Aug 15, 2010 08:53 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [427] *ahem* I beg your pardon?

I'm too reserved to actually clamor, but Isabeau is not the only writer upon whom my lengthy patience is visited, Gwidhiel! Yes, I'm looking at you, too, Imhiriel. Una. Dwim.


Hee hee ... thanks Denise!

Gwidhiel
Posted:Aug 15, 2010 10:46 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [428] As for the question, I may just continue working on a certain story that will answer it completely, since everyone is tired of waiting.

My first-ever use of "SQUEEEEE!!!"

I was saving it for a special occasion. :)

Gwidhiel
Posted:Aug 15, 2010 18:07 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [429] Waiting.....patiently......NOT! The clues are there, and while I may not agree with your decision, you are the author and I will live with it. But please....post it already. We're living on bread crumbs here. A chapter in one story here, a chapter in one story there. Checking TFF daily in the hopes that something, anything, by you will appear in the listing.

- Erulisse (one L)

Erulisse (one L)
Posted:Oct 12, 2010 07:07 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [430] Re Erulisse's comment, above: I sympathize with and share the sense of frustrated eagerness for an update from Isabeau ... but ... it's being done in her spare time and I think she's a busy lady! Isabeau, I just want to chime in to say that while your readers are keen for an update, impatient even, we're also really grateful that you've shared your wonderful writing, which has captured so many imaginations!

Gwidhiel
Posted:Dec 6, 2010 15:34 GMT  Reply to this Comment
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