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November, 12 2005
OK, folks-this is the general forum now for questions that don't seem to fit in any of the other threads. I'm going to sort some of the earlier posts into the appropriate forums, but it might take a while, so bear with me. I'll delete the ones that have already been reposted by their authors.
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 Strangely enough, Rebecca, that's exactly what happens! She's the daughter of the Haradrim ambassador and a mathmatician and astronomer. Amrothos starts out by admiring her mind.
Quel suprise! In my mind I was seeing her as the ambassador's beloved daughter too! And unlike all the other tall slim beauties of Gondor, I was picturing her as a more curvaceous sort.
don't know when I'll write it though. Might have to do that Sherlock Holmes-style mystery I keep promising Una.
No, Andra was an only child, though it is an interesting idea. He would have wanted to buy them out of slavery, and would probably have remained in Harad to do so.
Yes, I see what you mean. I was looking for the story that described Imrahil rescuing him from being whipped in the market in Umbar, as I thought I recalled something of his mother's background being described somewhere. Didn't find it, but I thought I recalled that she was of noble birth but had been sold into slavery along with the rest of her family after they were on the losing side of a feud of some kind. So is it possible that, unbeknownst to him, Andrahar has cousins somewhere -- that is cousins by way of his mother, who might actually care to know him? If his mother had a sister who fared a bit better in life than she did -- perhaps being bought by someone not so highly placed as Andrahar's father -- I wonder if it's conceivable that she (Andra's hypothetical aunt) could have ultimately been freed herself, or had children who were freed.
Posted:Jan 28, 2006 12:55 GMT Reply to this Comment
 ..........and one of his cousins grew up to be the Haradric ambassador who's daughter married Amrothos :-p
Actually I have another question. Why is it dangerous to give Imrahil the popy in Captain, I know opium is a drug but it seems quite a common pain relief in oter fics, and what did Elladans comment mean about if he will survive, ould the popy cause side affects?
Posted:Jan 28, 2006 17:47 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Isabeau:There's a little bit about Andra, Boromir and poetry in the story Altariel and I are working on now.
Nargil asked: Will we see it soon?
Not sure. She writes a bit and then I have to answer and sometimes we can't get to it right away. I think it will be a while yet. Hopefully it will be worth the wait!
I like the idea of Amrothos and his Bride, they can raise little geniouses (is that even a word?) and event amazing devices such as self rocking cribs to keep them happy.
Let's hope Amrothos isn't studying poisonous serpents again or something when the children are young!
Will Andra ever discover that Heth has Boromirs dager?
I suspect he'll figure it out here soon.
Also does Brand finnish up living in Andras house, and what promted Nimrien to give it to him?
Brand will probably split his time between the house and the palace, depending upon whether Andra is at home or on patrol. As for the house, Nimrien willed it to Andra because they were good friends, she knew he wouldn't buy one for himself, and she thought he might like a place to call his own.
Posted:Jan 28, 2006 17:54 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Will some of the visions that Faramir had or that Hethlin saw in Galadriel's Mirror come to pass (or be avoided, as may be the case) during the time frame of The Silver Swan?
Posted:Jan 28, 2006 23:43 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Nargil wrote: Actually I have another question. Why is it dangerous to give Imrahil the popy in Captain, I know opium is a drug but it seems quite a common pain relief in oter fics, and what did Elladans comment mean about if he will survive, ould the popy cause side affects?
There was a time I could have answered this off the top of my head, but I can't any more. I will tell you that when I was writing that section of CaptainI consulted with E.W., who used to be a nurse, both for the type of poison that would cause the symptoms that I wanted, and what could be done to treat it, and she said that poppy would be a very bad idea. I'll ask her again about why that was. I wanted to be careful with that part of the story, because I read a lot of fic where people write stuff happening to characters and they obviously have no idea of how much the human body can actually take. Many (not all)H/C writers are really bad about that-they do horrific things to characters without realizing that in real life, characters suffering such injuries would simply die of shock, thereby depriving them of the comfort part of the story.
In my stories, Gondorian medical knowledge is fairly advanced in that they have made the connection that keeping wounds clean is a good idea, but if you take one in the lung or gut, you're still going to die in all likelihood. Obviously the Elves, with their mystical healing abilities, are better at dealing with injuries, and they probably save many of their battle wounded that would die were they human, both because of superior Elven skill and native Elven resiliency.
Posted:Jan 29, 2006 00:20 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Imhiriel wrote: Will some of the visions that Faramir had or that Hethlin saw in Galadriel's Mirror come to pass (or be avoided, as may be the case) during the time frame of The Silver Swan?
Some of that was in the past (the stuff with Hethlin's dad and mom) and a good bit of it is in the future. Unfortunately, a lot of it will happen after Silver Swan as I currently envisage it, but if things change and the story covers more ground timewise than I planned, then some of it could indeed happen during the story. Sorry to make you all wait so long!
Posted:Jan 29, 2006 00:24 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Rebecca wrote: I was looking for the story that described Imrahil rescuing him from being whipped in the market in Umbar, as I thought I recalled something of his mother's background being described somewhere. Didn't find it, but I thought I recalled that she was of noble birth but had been sold into slavery along with the rest of her family after they were on the losing side of a feud of some kind.
That is in fact correct. Isfhandijar bought her after his own family was well established and fell in love with her. I'm thinking he had more than one wife, and I'm contemplating if perhaps his youngest one, the mother of Andrahar's youngest brother whom he kills on the Pelennor might still be around and in a position to cause trouble for our boy. She would be very old, of course.
So is it possible that, unbeknownst to him, Andrahar has cousins somewhere -- that is cousins by way of his mother, who might actually care to know him? If his mother had a sister who fared a bit better in life than she did -- perhaps being bought by someone not so highly placed as Andrahar's father -- I wonder if it's conceivable that she (Andra's hypothetical aunt) could have ultimately been freed herself, or had children who were freed.
I detect in you a burning desire to give Andra some family, Rebecca! I suppose that it's possible, but while they might have known of Andrahar's existence as a child, I don't know that they would ever discover what happened to him after he moved to Gondor, and he's certainly got no way to track his kin down. I'll mulch that one a bit though, and see if anything comes of it.
Posted:Jan 29, 2006 00:31 GMT Reply to this Comment
 You know, I really liked Nargil's comment "and one of his (Andra's) cousins grew up to be the Haradric ambassador who's daughter married Amrothos", even though I think she meant it tongue-in-cheek, and it's probably outside the realm of Haridic social code or something. Still, it's so appealing to think of something of Andra's bloodline connecting with Imrahil's in a physical way. And humorous irony if it would be through Amrothos, who of all Imrahil's kids is probably the one Andra understands the least! Hope the mulching turns up something...
Also, I think Nargil asked a bit back about how many Swan Knights there are, which I'm also very curious about. (The inn Brand worked at must have been huge to be big enough for them and all their horses, too.) How many captains are there?
Posted:Jan 29, 2006 02:01 GMT Reply to this Comment
 Hi. I'm Claire.
sent emails but don't think they arrrived. I wasn't in time to vote who i thought Heth should be with, but my vote is definately Imrahil. When he dies is confusing to me, one of my friends said that she found out he lives to near 100 years after the ring war. I think the two of them are good together. age shouldn't matter at all. they compliment each other, Imrahil doesn't have to be so stifled around her and can be as he was in his younger days, and I think he brings the best out in Heth,i suppose she seems to flourish around him.umm, by the way you have spoke sometimes, i take it there is going to be a sequel to silver swan. is romance going to be in this story for hethlin or will it just be about her training.and how much time is this story going to cover?i think i know who she will end up with,faramir's prophecy about the white birds, if that isn't a huge clue,i don't know what is. I've read the first chapter of Fourth Age but the way some people speak they make it sound like the story is somewhere else with more than the one chapter, if thst is so could i have the link?
Posted:Jan 29, 2006 03:04 GMT Reply to this Comment
 I only ever found one chapter of the Fourth Age which is the one that has been posted but I never knew if here was more, I guess not but at the time it was confusing.
Rebecca, the chapter about Andra in the market is chapter 10 of kin-strife if you still want to know.
I also quite like the idea of Amrothos marrying Andra's second Cousin, he does need some family that is not adopted, and I quite like the idea of one of his father's old wives causing trouble as well, What happened to his father's brother from Kin-strife?
Another question Where was Andra when Velda attacks in Dol-Amroth yule?
Posted:Jan 29, 2006 07:07 GMT Reply to this Comment
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