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By:Isabeau
 November, 12 2005

OK, folks-this is the general forum now for questions that don't seem to fit in any of the other threads. I'm going to sort some of the earlier posts into the appropriate forums, but it might take a while, so bear with me. I'll delete the ones that have already been reposted by their authors.


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 [111] Any up-dates are good, and yes Isabeau, write then talk to us unless your muse gets huffy. If it does I'm sure we can find a few Nuzguls to stimulate it back into co-operation *evil cackle*

I am looking forward to finding out who Heth ends up with, but at the same time it will be a shame because we can't argue the merrits of her pottential suitors anymore.

Nargil
Posted:Jan 25, 2006 15:43 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [112] Ah, it's hardly fair to ask everyone to else to wait, don't you think? Seems to me that if a story is posted with obvious spoiler warnings, those who wish to wait can do so. We shouldn't all be held hostage to one's unreconciled wish to wait and inability to do so... that rationale would remove chocolate ice-cream from all grocery stores!

Yes, I know you're absolutely correct, Rebecca! My comment was rather a whining on my part because I just know how terrible I am when it comes to avoiding spoilers, even if it spoils the surprise for myself and I always resent myself after I have given in - again.


The harder part would be to get folks to hold their tongues in discussions like this. That really wouldn't be fair to readers who want to wait, and more importantly unfair to Isabeau, as people might be inclined to ask her questions whose answers would require her to address things she hasn't written about yet.

I agree.

Imhiriel
Posted:Jan 26, 2006 17:37 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [113] Isabeau wrote: Can't remember if I put it in the timeline or not, but for a long time I was adamant that it wasn't part of the Hethverse. Now I'm not so sure. It is a piece I'm rather fond of.

Oh, I think it's there in the Hethverse... isn't it? Isn't there always going to be some tension between Eomer and Elladan?

I suspect so, at least until Eomer has been safely married for a while...

When I was reading the bit about how Eomer had lain with a couple of women who were skilled with their tongues, but nothing compared to Elladan, I wondered how Lothiriel will measure up. Of course, being a beautiful, charming woman can compensate for a host of minor shortcomings.

If they are in fact, shortcomings...Lothiriel does have access to that exquisitely illustrated volume of The Garden of Love...I can see her doing a bit of research, though I can't see her talking to Imrahil about this, even though he would be an invaluable resource. I think that would test even his considerable self-possession.

Isabeau



Posted:Jan 26, 2006 17:45 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [114] Nargil wrote: Why is Andra scared of hieghts, Soledad mentions in Pawns and Symbols that he is, was there a specific reason or is it just somthing he was born with?

I haven't come up with a good reason yet. Perhaps one of his legitimate half-brothers dangled him out of a tower or something when he was little.

Also was it Andra who taught Boromir that bit of a poem mentioned in the Silver Swan?

Sort of. The quote is from Kedara and Asinyal. There's a little bit about Andra, Boromir and poetry in the story Altariel and I are working on now.

Last one, What is the "retched stuff" Imrahil writes about in the book of poetry in Trust?

The date of the inscription is 2986, which is soon after he married Nimrien. So I suspect he's referring to the fact that he's been quite a headache to Andra from time to time, particularly with the business in Kin-strife and some of his other undocumented exploits.

Isabeau



Posted:Jan 26, 2006 17:55 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [115] Re: the "retched stuff" - There is a quote that could apply at the end of Ch. 7 in Ultimatums, too. It's what Andra calls the book of poetry that Imrahil teases Nimrien about in the previous chapter. (Comparing pomegranates and breasts...hmmm.) And yes, after Nargil quoted it I had to go look it up to see where I remembered it from, late one night after my kids woke me up and I couldn't get back to sleep... Thank goodness for Isabeau & Altariel when insomnia strikes!

Also, the comments about Lothiriel's sexual knowledge made me wonder. With her mother dead when Thiri "came of age," most if not all of her questions were probably answered by her great-aunt Tirathiel? Seems like Nimrien was hardly lacking in theoretical knowledge in Ultimatums, with the same source of information. The vision of Thiri asking her father was hilarious, though! Maybe she'd be more comfortable asking Erchirion. :)

dpetrash
Posted:Jan 26, 2006 18:14 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [116] If they are in fact, shortcomings...Lothiriel does have access to that exquisitely illustrated volume of The Garden of Love...I can see her doing a bit of research, though I can't see her talking to Imrahil about this, even though he would be an invaluable resource. I think that would test even his considerable self-possession.

There's book-learning, and then there's knowledge that comes from experience ... and having a set of the equipment oneself. I have no doubt that Lothiriel will be more than satisfactory that department once she's married to Eomer... just wondering if in the back of his mind, buried somewhere deep, will be a memory of being in the hands of someone who really knew what he was doing. A pointless digression, really -- sorry!

Rebecca
Posted:Jan 26, 2006 21:19 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [117] Also, the comments about Lothiriel's sexual knowledge made me wonder. With her mother dead when Thiri "came of age," most if not all of her questions were probably answered by her great-aunt Tirathiel? Seems like Nimrien was hardly lacking in theoretical knowledge in Ultimatums, with the same source of information. The vision of Thiri asking her father was hilarious, though! Maybe she'd be more comfortable asking Erchirion. :)

Nimrien had done some reading on her own-Tirathiel does not have very much practical experience in such matters. As for 'Thiri, she might indeed be more comfortable consulting with someone. My money's on Mariel. I think 'Chiron would be embarassed. Now Amrothos wouldn't, and could give her a great deal of book knowledge, but he's got no practical experience himself at this point.

Isabeau



Posted:Jan 27, 2006 18:33 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [118] Now Amrothos wouldn't, and could give her a great deal of book knowledge, but he's got no practical experience himself at this point.

I could see Amrothos going for quite a while without ever gaining any practical experience in that department, too busy building printing presses and developing explosive chemical compounds... and then one day, to the amazement of his family and the shock of the Dol Amroth court, marrying a very sultry and darkly beautiful Haradrim girl. And living happily every after!

Speaking of Haradrim girls, Isabeau, is it possible that Andrahar had any young sisters? His mother was his father's favorite, so would it be possible that they had more children? His legitimate half-brothers wouldn't have viewed girls as any threat, although of course they would have been sold into slavery.

Rebecca
Posted:Jan 28, 2006 10:17 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [119] Rebecca wrote: I could see Amrothos going for quite a while without ever gaining any practical experience in that department, too busy building printing presses and developing explosive chemical compounds... and then one day, to the amazement of his family and the shock of the Dol Amroth court, marrying a very sultry and darkly beautiful Haradrim girl. And living happily every after!

Strangely enough, Rebecca, that's exactly what happens! She's the daughter of the Haradrim ambassador and a mathmatician and astronomer. Amrothos starts out by admiring her mind...don't know when I'll write it though. Might have to do that Sherlock Holmes-style mystery I keep promising Una.

Speaking of Haradrim girls, Isabeau, is it possible that Andrahar had any young sisters? His mother was his father's favorite, so would it be possible that they had more children? His legitimate half-brothers wouldn't have viewed girls as any threat, although of course they would have been sold into slavery.

No, Andra was an only child, though it is an interesting idea. He would have wanted to buy them out of slavery, and would probably have remained in Harad to do so.

Isabeau



Posted:Jan 28, 2006 11:59 GMT  Reply to this Comment


 [120] Isabeau:There's a little bit about Andra, Boromir and poetry in the story Altariel and I are working on now.

Will we see it soon?

I like the idea of Amrothos and his Bride, they can raise little geniouses (is that even a word?) and event amazing devices such as self rocking cribs to keep them happy.

Will Andra ever discover that Heth has Boromirs dager?

Also does Brand finnish up living in Andras house, and what promted Nimrien to give it to him?

Nargil
Posted:Jan 28, 2006 12:48 GMT  Reply to this Comment
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